By John Ubaldi,

Two extremely disturbing things emerged from former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s interview on “60 Minutes” by Scott Pelley, one in which he had begun a counter-intelligence investigation into President Trump shortly after the firing of FBI Director James Comey.

The second most alarming comment was when McCabe mentioned that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein discussed wearing a wire to secretly record the president saying something incriminating so as to invoke the 25th amendment in concurrence with a majority of cabinet officials in agreement.

Little Outrage over McCabe’s Remarks

These two statements alone if proved accurate should send shivers throughout the constitutional fabric of this republic, but so far this has barely caused a ripple of outrage, or is it because we distain Trump so much that anything that is done to remove him is justifiable?  This is an extremely dangerous precedent to set!

Even Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass), a Democratic candidate for president in 2020, chimed in that, “My point here is that if they believe that Donald Trump cannot fulfill the obligations of his office, then they have a constitutional responsibility to invoke the 25th Amendment.”

Continuing in her remarks, “Their loyalty under law is not to him personally. It is to the Constitution of the United States and to the people of United States.”

What would be the constitutional rational for invoking the 25th amendment that if we don’t like the president or his polices we can then remove the president?  This is a dangerous constitutional road Warren is heading down!

FBI Launces Counterintelligence Investigation of President Trump

During the first part of the interview with Pelley asked McCabe what prompted you to launch a counterintelligence investigation of President Trump?

McCabe responded, “It’s many of those same concerns that cause us to be concerned about a national security threat. And the idea is, if the president committed obstruction of justice, fired the director of the of the FBI to negatively impact or to shut down our investigation of Russia’s malign activity and possibly in support of his campaign, as a counterintelligence investigator you have to ask yourself, “Why would a president of the United States do that?” So all those same sorts of facts cause us to wonder is there an inappropriate relationship, a connection between this president and our most fearsome enemy, the government of Russia?”

Congress Allegedly Notified of Counterintelligence Investigation

In interviews following “60 Minutes,” McCabe commented that he and other FBI officials had indeed informed the so-called “Gang of Eight” leaders who comprise members of both political parties in the House and Senate, to include the chairs and co-chairs of both House and Senate Intelligence committees that the FBI had indeed in fact opened a counterintelligence investigation into Trump after he had fired Comey in May of 2017.

Former House Oversite Committee Chair Rep. Trey Gowdy has serious doubts regarding the truthfulness of McCabe’s accusation as none of the lawmaker’s cited objected to the investigation, and they would have included  Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., then-House Speaker Paul Ryan, and then-House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, who never mentioned anything about this.

Gowdy commented that “The reason he’s doing it this way is that Devin and Paul are not allowed to discuss anything that’s said in a ‘Gang of Eight’ meeting and McCabe knows that,” Gowdy said on Fox News’ “The Story with Martha MacCallum.” “So he can level the accusation and Devin and Paul cannot refute him.”

Continuing in his remarks Gowdy stated, “I listened to Devin and Paul quizzed the [Justice Department] and the FBI for hours on multiple occasions about the one counterintelligence investigation, we all knew about it. I find it stunning that they would know about a second one and not say a single solitary word,” he said.

The only counterintelligence investigation which Gowdy is referring to is the one opened by the FBI in July of 2016 that was looking into the Trump campaign as referenced in emails by fired FBI investigator Peter Strzok on various emails.

Questions not asked during “60 Minutes” Interview

During the interview with McCabe, Pelley failed to ask additional follow up questions such as:

  • What evidence or probable cause did you have to instigate a counterintelligence investigation?
  • How much of the non-verified Russian dossier was used, because we have learned this was the only evidence used to obtain a FISA warrant to conduct surveillance on Trump campaign aide Carter Paige.  How much of this was used to impact the second counterintelligence investigation?
  • Who did you notify at the Department of Justice that you were starting a second counterintelligence investigation and was that person Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein?
  • Did you or anyone else have animosity toward Trump now that he is President?
  • What was the final outcome of the counterintelligence investigation?

Deputy Attorney General Mentions Using a Wire to Incriminate President  

This was probably the most disturbing part of the “60 Minutes” interview when McCabe stated that “in the context of a conversation, the deputy attorney general offered to wear a wire into the White House. He said, “I never get searched when I go into the White House. I could easily wear a recording device. They wouldn’t know it was there.”

The purpose was to catch the president saying something incriminating which by means would involve the invoking of the 25th amendment with regard to his mental incompetence to have him removed him from office.  The 25th amendment deals with the incapacitation or disability of a president not based on the likability of a president.

This first came up back in September of 2018, when Rosenstein admitted he stated this conversation occurred but was done in an idle manner and not to be taken serious, but never would have considered it at any time.  McCabe believed he was serious and also mentioned that is was brought up in a subsequent meeting, it was so believable that he sought the advice of the FBI General Counsel’s office which would have been James Baker.

Baker Testified under Oath about Conversation

Last fall Baker testified under oath before the House Oversite and Judiciary Committees which has been confirmed by released portions of that testimony he mentioned that this in fact had occurred while also mentioning two cabinet officials without naming who, were ready to support such an effort to evoke the 25th amendment.  This information also came to his attention from FBI lawyer Lisa Page who relayed to him this conversation.

Right now we have at least four different accounts of at least two meetings, in which Rosenstein stated he would use a wire to ensnare the president in saying something incriminating as to affect his removal from office utilizing the 25th amendment.  These statements have come from individuals who had testified under oath.

Both of these statement’s by McCabe need to be investigated to at least put to rest any alleged duplicity by both the Department of Justice and the FBI, but it’s amazing how this has barley received any media attention.

Has our hatred for Trump clouded our constitutional judgement that we are willing to shred the very document we all cherish just to rid someone we don’t like.  If this is all true it is indeed a sad day for America and our Founding Fathers are now rolling over in their graves at how far this nation has sunk!